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To jump off of that: The disdain for MOGAI labels means that literally any vocabulary younger than 3-5 years (and sometimes even up to 10-15 years), and ESPECIALLY any language associated with non-binary people, multi-attraction, or attraction based on factors that are not binary genders, gets automatically derided and dismissed.

And that’s just among LGBT+ folk. Cis straight people dismiss all that language automatically as ridiculous alphabet soup stuff, whether or not they know the phrase MOGAI to mock it with.

Can you see how this is a direct enemy of NB people — a community that (in this specific contemporary iteration of that concept) has only begun to articulate itself at all in the last 20 years, and only really picked up big steam in the last 5-10 — describing themselves at all?

Like if the cut-off for respectable LGBT language was 2000, and anything more recent than that is MOGAI bullshit…. modern NBs just aren’t allowed to talk about themselves whatsoever, because any word coined after 2000, especially if it was coined on tumblr, is just ~snowflakey MOGAI radikweers making up ridiculous nonsense words for overspecific concepts?~

If you’re an enemy of new specific language for new specific concepts, you’re an enemy of NBs. If you’re an enemy of reconsidering the usefulness of a gay-bi-straight orientation trinary, you’re an enemy of NBs. If you’re an enemy of “microlabels”, ie newly coined labels that don’t apply to you personally 🙄, you’re an enemy of NBs. If you’re not willing to imagine that the language NBs are coining for themselves right now can grow to be just as important and codified and significant as the language that lesbians and gay men use, and you’re not willing to lift it up, to be encouraging about its usage and include it where it’s applicable and appropriate, you’re an enemy of NBs. I don’t know what else to tell you.

What is MOGAI?

Originally MOGAI was coined as an alternative to LGBT+. It meant the same thing. It stood for “Marginalized Orientations, Genders and Intersex”, I believe?

However, it was immediately met with STRONG negative stigma because of an association with, essentially, newer or more niche identity labels. If you were Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual or (binary) Trans, you were less likely to see a need for an alternative to LGBT. Therefore, it was more likely to be used by people not already totally included in that “mainstream” group. Non-binary folks, people on the ace and aro spectrums, people who used a split attraction model, people whose queer identities were impacted by neurodivergence, etc, were all more likely to like the phrase MOGAI.

So as a result, it became a way to colloquially refer — whether derogatorily or as a reclamation — to those less mainstream identities. Pretty much anything that’s not L, G, B or T.

I would like to note it’s also being used against people who are L, G, B, or T, if you say anything exclusionists don’t like… as an insult. I’ve been told ‘being a lesbian doesn’t exclude you from being a mogai’ as an insult, which… I mean, Lesbian is a marginalized orientation, but I’m fairly sure that’s not what they meant (and likely they had no idea what it even stood for).

The arguments against it are also all false. They have either falsely attributed real arguments against completely different terms, or straight up made shit up about MOGAI in order to discredit it as ‘silly nonsense’.

As it is though calling oneself ‘Anti-Mogai’ is a HUGE indicator that this person is VERY nbphobic, and generally very panphobic as well as aphobic. Typically their arguments will be heavily based too in right wing anti-gay and anti-trans arguments, or will be ‘by you existing, we can’t pander to the cis, and you’re the reason transphobia exists as a result!!’

Marginalized Orientation, Gender *Alignment*, and Intersex, actually, but otherwise yes ^^

Thanks for these additions!! Yes!

(As a note, thanks for reminding me: Gender Alignment in this case refers to how your gender aligns with cisnormativity and assignment. IE being non-cis. Not like “woman-aligned”/“man-aligned” NB vocab.)

Because of the associations I talked about, MOGAI as a concept does also end up wrapped up in far-reaching ideas about what queer identity signifies, philosophies of inclusionism (beyond mere ace discourse), anti-assimilationism, and general attitudes toward queerness that are… incongruent with assimilationist, gatekeeping, reductive and radfem-leaning belief systems.

So if you’re into those conservative beliefs, then yes, the sprawling queer free-for-all associated with “MOGAI” is very threatening and gross indeed.