i wont say how i feel but you should maybe just stop talking about it? i mean they had a good point.. regardless of whos right this isnt really a conversation you should be in. lets let the bi/panromantic homosexuals and homoromantic bi/pansexuals fight this fight..

…i stopped talking about it hours ago though

i literally only made one post

at this point i’m just responding to anon who refuses to let up and stop being cissexist or apologize for calling me an ableist slur?

I never said transwomen are men. I am also referring to “but alice could def say she was a lesbian despite also being attracted to men” because no, if you have an attraction to men, you are NOT A LESBIAN. and yes, I know those aren’t *your* words, but you agree with them, so it makes no difference. if you have an attraction to men, you are not a lesbian, period. no amount of calling me cissexist will change that fact.

I mean, you asked me if it’d be too much to ask for me to not be such a biphobe, but it’s blatantly obvious you couldn’t be less of a lesbophobe if you tried. You seriously need to take the time to examine why it is SO important to you that lesbianism include attraction to men before you point all the fingers at me. Don’t act like your hands are clean.

you literally think that transgender women are men pls go throw yourself in the trash ASAP

also? i never actually said anything about men

a woman who is, say, homoromantic bisexual might be sexually attracted to nonbinary people and other women but not men lmao

and i would generally call the above person a lesbian in regards to her romantic orientation????? not her sexual one???? bc she would be romantically attracted only to other women???? like these people exist and you so obviously hate them why the hell are you like this

You do know the idea that lesbians really are attracted to men(and just need a good dicking)is violent lesbophobia right? Saying bi women can call themselves lesbians even when they’re attracted to men perpetuated that, and puts us in danger. No, even if you’re primarily attracted to women you’re still not a lesbian. Lesbians aren’t women ~primarily~ attracted to women, we are exclusively attracted to them. To change the definition of lesbian to include attractions to men is blatant lesbophobia.

penis = man?

cissexism has escalated to transmisogyny, i repeat, cissexism has escalated to transmisogyny.

we have now achieved peak cisbian

Oh, but here it is “women who experience same gender attraction but also other gender attraction” lesbians are not “other gender attracted”. Lesbian is a female homosexual, just as “gay” is a male homosexual. (Asexuals included) Defining lesbianism as exclusive to females who are attracted to females is no more biphobic than saying a man can’t be a lesbian is sexist. Words mean things. A bi person is not a lesbian, they are bi. You cannot be both.

romantic orientation =/= sexual orientation